Macaca
11-09 12:06 PM
The Grassley Visa Tax (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119397030162580100.html) The Wall Street Journal Editorial, November 2, 2007
Congress has failed to pass immigration reform, so industries that depend on foreign workers have already been left in the lurch. But Senator Chuck Grassley now wants to make things worse.
Last week Mr. Grassley, the Iowa Republican, slipped an amendment into a spending bill that would tax businesses that hire skilled immigrants an additional $3,500 per visa to a total of $5,000 each. According to the National Foundation for American Policy, this represents a $3.1 billion tax increase over five years on some of America's fastest growing companies.
Companies employing foreign professionals who are here on H-1B visas already pay $1,500 per individual. The fee was originally set at $500 in 1998, but at least past increases have also included a rise in the number of available visas. When Mr. Grassley floated this tax back in April, it would have been part of a Senate bill that lifted the H-1B visa cap by 50,000 and put in place an escalator provision that allowed market demand to determine future increases.
But the Grassley Tax proposed last week includes no such trade-off, leaving the H-1B visa cap of 65,000 per year intact. The need to increase this arbitrary quota, if not eliminate it, is clear. This year, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services received approximately 120,000 applications for H-1Bs on the first day they were available.
In addition to the hiring fee, current law already requires H-1B professionals to be paid the higher of the prevailing wage or actual wage paid to Americans in similar positions. So it's not as if U.S. businesses pursue foreign engineers, computer scientists and the like because they're cheaper to employ. Nor are these foreign workers overrunning the country and displacing Americans. In 2006, new H-1B professionals comprised 0.07 percent of the labor force.
Citing anecdotal evidence -- "People have called our office," a spokeswoman tells us -- Senator Grassley says the fee increase is necessary to combat abuse and fraud. But the back wages owed to H-1B hires amounted to just $4.6 million in 2006, down from $5.2 million the previous year. In a $12 trillion economy, those numbers are infinitesimal. Department of Labor investigations reveal that some 90% of violations are paperwork offenses and good-faith misunderstandings.
The Senator also maintains that his tax increase is needed to fund more federal programs for high-achieving U.S-born students, who are notoriously underrepresented in math and science. Leaving aside the dubious notion that the federal government doesn't spend enough money on education, the high-tech industry has already shelled out more than $2 billion to fund scholarships over the past decade. And that's not counting their other philanthropic efforts, nor the state and local taxes these companies pay to support public education.
Mr. Grassley's justifications notwithstanding, the reality is that these skilled foreign nationals help U.S. companies compete globally and keep jobs and innovation inside the U.S. This is especially important when other countries are opening their doors to this human capital. The European Union, which says it's facing a shortage of some 20 million skilled workers over the next two decades, has announced plans to streamline its immigration process to attract foreign talent.
So while even European bureaucrats are wising up to the importance of attracting global talent to keep an economy competitive, a Republican Senator is joining liberal protectionists to move the U.S. in the opposite direction. Go figure. If Congress can't see its way to fix our broken immigration system, the least it can do is not drive more jobs offshore.
Investing in America, Making Things Worse (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119449088264586132.html) By Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) | Wall Street Journal, Nov 8, 2007
I'm startled to learn that The Wall Street Journal seriously believes that an investment in American students will make things worse for U.S. businesses ("The Grassley Visa Tax," editorial, Nov. 2).
Your editorial asserts that the number of foreign workers on H-1B visas is so minimal that we shouldn't care if Americans are in fact displaced. I challenge the Journal to wave their labor force figures in the face of one of the hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder. That's a smack in the face to the American worker and hardly an issue to take lightly.
I am committed to an effort to include additional H-1B reforms and increase the visa supply along with an increased investment to educate Americans. But, I strongly disagree that the only solution is to increase our reliance on foreign workers by raising the annual cap. Reforms to the program must be a top priority. Big business cannot continue to ignore the home-grown American talent who should be getting at least a good portion of these jobs.
Congress has failed to pass immigration reform, so industries that depend on foreign workers have already been left in the lurch. But Senator Chuck Grassley now wants to make things worse.
Last week Mr. Grassley, the Iowa Republican, slipped an amendment into a spending bill that would tax businesses that hire skilled immigrants an additional $3,500 per visa to a total of $5,000 each. According to the National Foundation for American Policy, this represents a $3.1 billion tax increase over five years on some of America's fastest growing companies.
Companies employing foreign professionals who are here on H-1B visas already pay $1,500 per individual. The fee was originally set at $500 in 1998, but at least past increases have also included a rise in the number of available visas. When Mr. Grassley floated this tax back in April, it would have been part of a Senate bill that lifted the H-1B visa cap by 50,000 and put in place an escalator provision that allowed market demand to determine future increases.
But the Grassley Tax proposed last week includes no such trade-off, leaving the H-1B visa cap of 65,000 per year intact. The need to increase this arbitrary quota, if not eliminate it, is clear. This year, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services received approximately 120,000 applications for H-1Bs on the first day they were available.
In addition to the hiring fee, current law already requires H-1B professionals to be paid the higher of the prevailing wage or actual wage paid to Americans in similar positions. So it's not as if U.S. businesses pursue foreign engineers, computer scientists and the like because they're cheaper to employ. Nor are these foreign workers overrunning the country and displacing Americans. In 2006, new H-1B professionals comprised 0.07 percent of the labor force.
Citing anecdotal evidence -- "People have called our office," a spokeswoman tells us -- Senator Grassley says the fee increase is necessary to combat abuse and fraud. But the back wages owed to H-1B hires amounted to just $4.6 million in 2006, down from $5.2 million the previous year. In a $12 trillion economy, those numbers are infinitesimal. Department of Labor investigations reveal that some 90% of violations are paperwork offenses and good-faith misunderstandings.
The Senator also maintains that his tax increase is needed to fund more federal programs for high-achieving U.S-born students, who are notoriously underrepresented in math and science. Leaving aside the dubious notion that the federal government doesn't spend enough money on education, the high-tech industry has already shelled out more than $2 billion to fund scholarships over the past decade. And that's not counting their other philanthropic efforts, nor the state and local taxes these companies pay to support public education.
Mr. Grassley's justifications notwithstanding, the reality is that these skilled foreign nationals help U.S. companies compete globally and keep jobs and innovation inside the U.S. This is especially important when other countries are opening their doors to this human capital. The European Union, which says it's facing a shortage of some 20 million skilled workers over the next two decades, has announced plans to streamline its immigration process to attract foreign talent.
So while even European bureaucrats are wising up to the importance of attracting global talent to keep an economy competitive, a Republican Senator is joining liberal protectionists to move the U.S. in the opposite direction. Go figure. If Congress can't see its way to fix our broken immigration system, the least it can do is not drive more jobs offshore.
Investing in America, Making Things Worse (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119449088264586132.html) By Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) | Wall Street Journal, Nov 8, 2007
I'm startled to learn that The Wall Street Journal seriously believes that an investment in American students will make things worse for U.S. businesses ("The Grassley Visa Tax," editorial, Nov. 2).
Your editorial asserts that the number of foreign workers on H-1B visas is so minimal that we shouldn't care if Americans are in fact displaced. I challenge the Journal to wave their labor force figures in the face of one of the hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder. That's a smack in the face to the American worker and hardly an issue to take lightly.
I am committed to an effort to include additional H-1B reforms and increase the visa supply along with an increased investment to educate Americans. But, I strongly disagree that the only solution is to increase our reliance on foreign workers by raising the annual cap. Reforms to the program must be a top priority. Big business cannot continue to ignore the home-grown American talent who should be getting at least a good portion of these jobs.
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misanthrope
10-03 11:56 AM
Ok here is my question how come all EB3 are "body shopped consulants" and what are EB2 ? "High profiled consulatants" ? I want to know what is gctest ?
there is nothing wrong in expressing but taking a category and calling them body shoped is not the right way to express ...
You have a valid point about gctest. But again, there is no way EB2/EB3 gets to port to EB1. If it was so, then it would be a chaos here. Only porting that happens is E3 to EB2 and may be that's why he used EB3 in his post.
Maybe he really meant that or maybe he didn't. That's again up to one's perspective.
you think you are having a logical and polite conversation - thats the ignorance part .
Prove it. All my posts are here in this thread and tell me how am I NOT having a logical and polite conversation.
there is nothing wrong in expressing but taking a category and calling them body shoped is not the right way to express ...
You have a valid point about gctest. But again, there is no way EB2/EB3 gets to port to EB1. If it was so, then it would be a chaos here. Only porting that happens is E3 to EB2 and may be that's why he used EB3 in his post.
Maybe he really meant that or maybe he didn't. That's again up to one's perspective.
you think you are having a logical and polite conversation - thats the ignorance part .
Prove it. All my posts are here in this thread and tell me how am I NOT having a logical and polite conversation.
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07-16 10:46 AM
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01-30 10:30 PM
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06-13 04:51 PM
We need help for EB3 I Category...
Also we need a legislation declaring EAD as temp GC, and include the EAD years in Citizenship.
May be we can become US Citizens before GC holders :D How is that for a thought!!!
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Also we need a legislation declaring EAD as temp GC, and include the EAD years in Citizenship.
May be we can become US Citizens before GC holders :D How is that for a thought!!!
IV pls. help!
manderson
11-07 07:50 PM
What is a H-1B blackout?
Sorry by "blackout" I meant how H1B visas were used up in the first day this year causing hysteria and utter confusion in the community, leading to a lotter system in the end and 2/3 of applicants without the covetted visa.
Not surprising: !
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Sorry by "blackout" I meant how H1B visas were used up in the first day this year causing hysteria and utter confusion in the community, leading to a lotter system in the end and 2/3 of applicants without the covetted visa.
Not surprising: !
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dr_vroeg
06-22 03:18 PM
I'd agree to that
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americandesi
11-02 05:13 PM
You make these H1-Bs who have spent 6 years here (working on various products, technologies, ramping up, understanding customers, relationships etc) go back, they are going to start companies in India. Now all the capital stays out there. The same 5 products that could have been built in the US and sold to lots of companies abroad, will now have to be bought by the US.
The irony is that, FBI had already warned the American Firms on this
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Watch_those_H1-B_hires_FBI_tells_American_firms/rssarticleshow/2207928.cms
The irony is that, FBI had already warned the American Firms on this
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Watch_those_H1-B_hires_FBI_tells_American_firms/rssarticleshow/2207928.cms
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sc3
08-12 02:26 PM
How will it march steadily when we have less than 3000 numbers for the year?
I am sure we have many pplicants with PD in 2002 and 2003. I would be surprised if PD moves beyond April 2002 in FY 2009.
Assuming no other miracle happens!
Steady march!, not fast march!! ;) I am very hopeful of the dates moving past mid 2002 for FY 2009. (which is about 8 months movement from now, and I think that is very possible).
I am thinking we have about 5-6% representation for the earlier years on this poll? What is everyone's estimate on the representation??
I am sure we have many pplicants with PD in 2002 and 2003. I would be surprised if PD moves beyond April 2002 in FY 2009.
Assuming no other miracle happens!
Steady march!, not fast march!! ;) I am very hopeful of the dates moving past mid 2002 for FY 2009. (which is about 8 months movement from now, and I think that is very possible).
I am thinking we have about 5-6% representation for the earlier years on this poll? What is everyone's estimate on the representation??
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pappu
04-28 10:09 AM
One more point:
Know when your GC and passport expires so that you can renew it. :)
Getting a GC does not mean you can ignore all your immigration issues.
Know when your GC and passport expires so that you can renew it. :)
Getting a GC does not mean you can ignore all your immigration issues.
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REEF�
06-19 05:13 PM
Nice job, I dont think the reflection was necessary though.
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desi3933
01-22 08:12 AM
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A challenge by H1B employers may be required ....
That is correct. Since H1-B petition is filed by employer, it can only be legally challenged by the employer only. Employee is beneficiary and therefore has very limited legal rights to challenge even if petition is denied.
Now, consider this hypothetical example, on practical note, if an employer files a legal suit, the employer must be able to defend his H1-B obligations for all its employees. That includes paying H1-B wages on "bench", H1-B worker working on sites specified by LCA, reporting to USCIS when H1-B worker resigns or is fired. This could be problematic for many small-time job-shops (aka body-shoppers).
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Not a legal advice.
A challenge by H1B employers may be required ....
That is correct. Since H1-B petition is filed by employer, it can only be legally challenged by the employer only. Employee is beneficiary and therefore has very limited legal rights to challenge even if petition is denied.
Now, consider this hypothetical example, on practical note, if an employer files a legal suit, the employer must be able to defend his H1-B obligations for all its employees. That includes paying H1-B wages on "bench", H1-B worker working on sites specified by LCA, reporting to USCIS when H1-B worker resigns or is fired. This could be problematic for many small-time job-shops (aka body-shoppers).
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ajs4123
10-24 11:07 AM
I also got email from CRIS last night stating that my I-129 has been reopened.
I have a very simple immigration history:
I-129 filed and approved April 2005, petition expires 3/30/2008; only ever worked for this same company.
No H-1B extensions ever filed, no H-1B transfers ever done, no previous history of US immigration prior to April 2005.
Labor, I-140 and I-485 were filed November 2006; I-140 approved February 2007, I-485 approved June 2007, EB2 green card arrived June 2007.
There was a LUD on the I-140, in August, but that was about the same time as a bunch of other people got LUDs on cases starting SRC07... seems like I can disregard that.
There was also a LUD on the I-129 without a status change later in August. No explanation for that was apparent.
And now I get a notice on 10/23/2007 saying that the I-129 has been re-opened and that something will happen within the next 30 days. I'll be sure to keep you all updated if I get anything like an actual I-797 notice through the mail.
Did anyone else get anything on October 23rd?
I have a very simple immigration history:
I-129 filed and approved April 2005, petition expires 3/30/2008; only ever worked for this same company.
No H-1B extensions ever filed, no H-1B transfers ever done, no previous history of US immigration prior to April 2005.
Labor, I-140 and I-485 were filed November 2006; I-140 approved February 2007, I-485 approved June 2007, EB2 green card arrived June 2007.
There was a LUD on the I-140, in August, but that was about the same time as a bunch of other people got LUDs on cases starting SRC07... seems like I can disregard that.
There was also a LUD on the I-129 without a status change later in August. No explanation for that was apparent.
And now I get a notice on 10/23/2007 saying that the I-129 has been re-opened and that something will happen within the next 30 days. I'll be sure to keep you all updated if I get anything like an actual I-797 notice through the mail.
Did anyone else get anything on October 23rd?
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09-24 01:20 AM
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Lets not argue, lets discuss, maybe I could agree with your views. So heer it goes, how is quota limits fair to anybody? I thought we are all equals, unless you think you are challenged in anyways - physically or otherwise, in that case I agree, you are 100% right, there must be a special quota for you. For all others who consider themselves to be equal shareholders to the free society, isn't preferential treatment for any set of people "wrong" and "unfair"? Just asking? I mean are we not equals, if yes, then there should be no quota for any country, if no and you think you are superior, which maybe true, then I should get preferential treatment, if no, and you think you are inferior or otherwise challenged in anyways, well, in that case yes, you sure should be treat better than others.... you know....
So what do you think you are - equal? inferior? or superior? I mean it has go to be one of those, right?
Ok, I will give you a weak analogy. See how Indian IPOs distribute shares when it is oversubscribed. The same thing goes here. Replace money by applicants and replace investors by countries, and you will get a sense as to why per country quota is implemented. I agree it is hard to digest the per country quota, but it is what it is. It is affirmative action if you will. It requires equality, but gives some buffer to people not properly represented (or run the risk of being overwhelmed by any single country).
Lets not argue, lets discuss, maybe I could agree with your views. So heer it goes, how is quota limits fair to anybody? I thought we are all equals, unless you think you are challenged in anyways - physically or otherwise, in that case I agree, you are 100% right, there must be a special quota for you. For all others who consider themselves to be equal shareholders to the free society, isn't preferential treatment for any set of people "wrong" and "unfair"? Just asking? I mean are we not equals, if yes, then there should be no quota for any country, if no and you think you are superior, which maybe true, then I should get preferential treatment, if no, and you think you are inferior or otherwise challenged in anyways, well, in that case yes, you sure should be treat better than others.... you know....
So what do you think you are - equal? inferior? or superior? I mean it has go to be one of those, right?
Ok, I will give you a weak analogy. See how Indian IPOs distribute shares when it is oversubscribed. The same thing goes here. Replace money by applicants and replace investors by countries, and you will get a sense as to why per country quota is implemented. I agree it is hard to digest the per country quota, but it is what it is. It is affirmative action if you will. It requires equality, but gives some buffer to people not properly represented (or run the risk of being overwhelmed by any single country).
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GCard_Dream
01-29 05:15 PM
Do you have a link to this news/alert?
01/29/2007: Special Alert: DOL Submitted "Final" Regulation of Substitution Elimination Rule to OMB on 01/26/2007
* Since this is a final rule, upon approval by OMB, the elimination of substitution and 45-day validity of certified labor certification will be triggered. Take this message as a very special alert! This rule will not only eliminate substitutition on the OMB approval and release in the Federal Register but also kill the certified labor certification unless it is used within 45 days from the date of certification! Please stay tuned to this web site reporting.
* The planned implementation day appears to be April 2007. But it can be earlier!
01/29/2007: Special Alert: DOL Submitted "Final" Regulation of Substitution Elimination Rule to OMB on 01/26/2007
* Since this is a final rule, upon approval by OMB, the elimination of substitution and 45-day validity of certified labor certification will be triggered. Take this message as a very special alert! This rule will not only eliminate substitutition on the OMB approval and release in the Federal Register but also kill the certified labor certification unless it is used within 45 days from the date of certification! Please stay tuned to this web site reporting.
* The planned implementation day appears to be April 2007. But it can be earlier!
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dilvahabilyeha
07-18 05:29 PM
These all can be possible if only immigrationVoice can VOICE for us, let's give water to that Voice now!
Dear Bro and Sis and friend!
Just imagine if you were put under new FEE scheme? Do you have an option to negotiate? No! So I am sure it saved atleast $2000 on an average. How much of that do you think we can give IV for OUR OWN cause?
If each person contribute 25% of what they saved from no FEEs raise solution, I am sure we will not have to wait in another backlog DAM and shout for the gates to be opened!
Our contribution of "NOW" would help IV to have the lobbying firm grease those gates or even remove the gates!
Let's not suffocate in another backlog! Let's be safe than sorry!
We have 21,000 members, 14,000 active, so if 10000 contribute $500 that would be 5 Million! Sure that's hefty enough to talk to the lawmaker as they are busy doing the fund raising for the next election. Let's not make IV Core to ask for money again, we should have heard and seen thier efforts and achievements! Let do it Guys!
Dear Bro and Sis and friend!
Just imagine if you were put under new FEE scheme? Do you have an option to negotiate? No! So I am sure it saved atleast $2000 on an average. How much of that do you think we can give IV for OUR OWN cause?
If each person contribute 25% of what they saved from no FEEs raise solution, I am sure we will not have to wait in another backlog DAM and shout for the gates to be opened!
Our contribution of "NOW" would help IV to have the lobbying firm grease those gates or even remove the gates!
Let's not suffocate in another backlog! Let's be safe than sorry!
We have 21,000 members, 14,000 active, so if 10000 contribute $500 that would be 5 Million! Sure that's hefty enough to talk to the lawmaker as they are busy doing the fund raising for the next election. Let's not make IV Core to ask for money again, we should have heard and seen thier efforts and achievements! Let do it Guys!
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Hope_GC
07-15 07:08 PM
pmb76,
I agree with you we are at least not turning blind eye on this kinda false propagandas.
Fight for truth is a difficult thing but when fought with full enthu you will see the results(what ever they might be something positive).
I don't know what this petition is going to do. Atleast it will convey to CNN top brass that there are people out there who won't tolerate such lies. Maybe it won't do anything now but we must continue our efforts and oppose such false propagation of information whenever we can.
I agree with you we are at least not turning blind eye on this kinda false propagandas.
Fight for truth is a difficult thing but when fought with full enthu you will see the results(what ever they might be something positive).
I don't know what this petition is going to do. Atleast it will convey to CNN top brass that there are people out there who won't tolerate such lies. Maybe it won't do anything now but we must continue our efforts and oppose such false propagation of information whenever we can.
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Oli-G
06-13 12:42 AM
Nice work here.... might try and whip one up the next few days
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joydiptac
11-01 10:03 PM
Let us all have a rally to move back to our countries on 4July2008 to symbolically show that we want our Freedom and Independence and never return back...
Hey Mr. G I Joe,
Dont know who you are? or what your motive may be?
But you are asking the wrong question to the wrong group. :D
People who are backlogged in the gc queue.. facing career hardships.. or frustrated... :( ..are still hanging on to their hope of getting a gc.. someday! To be part of the American Dream. -- They are the ones visiting this website, to check if there is any news.. any ray of hope for their doldrum existence.
Do you think they will say yes to you?
The guys who decide to move back unfortunately don't come to this website.
During the last recession & once in a while I see lot of smart guys (lot smarter and lot more educated than myself) move back to their home country. Not because they don't have a job but due to better prospects back home (booming economy et al). They came here since America showed promise.. they left because the way they were treated was not what they expected. Bottomline America failed to holdback those brainy folks. They may have said yes to you. They probably wouldn't have bothered. So coming back to our conclusion. Wrong question.. wrong addressee..:p
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P.S. Can someone unbump this thread. Wasting everyones time!!!
Hey Mr. G I Joe,
Dont know who you are? or what your motive may be?
But you are asking the wrong question to the wrong group. :D
People who are backlogged in the gc queue.. facing career hardships.. or frustrated... :( ..are still hanging on to their hope of getting a gc.. someday! To be part of the American Dream. -- They are the ones visiting this website, to check if there is any news.. any ray of hope for their doldrum existence.
Do you think they will say yes to you?
The guys who decide to move back unfortunately don't come to this website.
During the last recession & once in a while I see lot of smart guys (lot smarter and lot more educated than myself) move back to their home country. Not because they don't have a job but due to better prospects back home (booming economy et al). They came here since America showed promise.. they left because the way they were treated was not what they expected. Bottomline America failed to holdback those brainy folks. They may have said yes to you. They probably wouldn't have bothered. So coming back to our conclusion. Wrong question.. wrong addressee..:p
n'
Joy :D
P.S. Can someone unbump this thread. Wasting everyones time!!!
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06-19 10:04 PM
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hpandey
06-12 10:25 AM
If I were in your place, I would not spend money to hire my own attorney- not yet. I would let the insurance attorney handle the initial few months, and only after things start happening, I'd think about paying an attorney myself. Meanwhile, use this interim period to look for a very good attorney- meet with a couple of them and decide which one would you choose, if you had to. Personal liability defense is handled best by firms specialized in tort defense (eg. who defend medical malpractise suits), and NOT by trial lawyers who are mostly experienced with plaintiff's cases.
Another thing, since YOU were the one who seems to have experienced most injuries in the accident, didn't you get letters from trial lawyers offering to sue the other folks and ask for damages (since THEY were at least 20% responsible for your injuries)? Such trial lawyers do not take any money from you upfront- they only take a % of the money recovered. This might make things too messy for you to handle- but give it a thought; sometimes offense is the best defence.
I agree.. you should be suing the other party in front of you for injuries since they were the ones who stopped and as the person said - offense is the best defense .
If I remember correctly the first car in front of you had already collided with the car number 2 and hence all the accidents. I don't know how they can put you at fault . So let the lawyers handle it and go all the way .
Best of luck.
Another thing, since YOU were the one who seems to have experienced most injuries in the accident, didn't you get letters from trial lawyers offering to sue the other folks and ask for damages (since THEY were at least 20% responsible for your injuries)? Such trial lawyers do not take any money from you upfront- they only take a % of the money recovered. This might make things too messy for you to handle- but give it a thought; sometimes offense is the best defence.
I agree.. you should be suing the other party in front of you for injuries since they were the ones who stopped and as the person said - offense is the best defense .
If I remember correctly the first car in front of you had already collided with the car number 2 and hence all the accidents. I don't know how they can put you at fault . So let the lawyers handle it and go all the way .
Best of luck.
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