jonty_11
05-24 05:51 PM
I did not expect this to go so soooo badly..I have to get out of here....get a drink,.....book my return tickets ....etc..
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kasanski33
02-13 04:13 PM
That was a great post LogicLife.....Its difficult to stick to the correct path when you feel everyone is against you, but you guys have done a great job and shown a lot of resilience and honor in what you are doing.
Keep up the good work...
Keep up the good work...
eb3_nepa
02-05 05:16 PM
Ok Logiclife, i did not intend to start a war or anything of the sort. I was just giving suggestions in light of the fact that inspite of IV working VERY hard, nothing is happening on the GC front. That is the ONLY reason I put up this post.
One more thing. You mentioned that a lot of people are not contributing, maybe the reason is that not everyone wants a GC that desperately. Some people are fine with working here temporarily and then going back after making some money. Besides some members who have contributed in the past may be wondering if it even makes sense to contribute again, being that there has been no real progress on the GC front since Dec 2005 (the birth of IV). Now do not get me wrong I KNOW how hard the IV team has worked and how many time we came SO SO SO close to getting our dreams realized in the Senate only to be crushed in the house again.
My point was, maybe it is time to face the facts. The government has changed but the basic attitude towards the "immigrant" is the same. This is because the average American, views immigrants as a threat. Now we can argue all we want on that statement, but in our hearts we know that the "AVERAGE American" would rather Not have immigrants come to the US (legal or illegal). In light of these events does it not make sense to ask for simpler goals? Goals like 485 filing or H4 Eads etc. Sure it makes us look weak in front of the anti-immigrants, but then are we here to solve our problems or to prove the anti-immigrants wrong?
Lastly this was NOT a threat nor was it intended to be a Threat that "take my advice or i will leave". Just a simple suggestion in light of things to come.
One more thing. You mentioned that a lot of people are not contributing, maybe the reason is that not everyone wants a GC that desperately. Some people are fine with working here temporarily and then going back after making some money. Besides some members who have contributed in the past may be wondering if it even makes sense to contribute again, being that there has been no real progress on the GC front since Dec 2005 (the birth of IV). Now do not get me wrong I KNOW how hard the IV team has worked and how many time we came SO SO SO close to getting our dreams realized in the Senate only to be crushed in the house again.
My point was, maybe it is time to face the facts. The government has changed but the basic attitude towards the "immigrant" is the same. This is because the average American, views immigrants as a threat. Now we can argue all we want on that statement, but in our hearts we know that the "AVERAGE American" would rather Not have immigrants come to the US (legal or illegal). In light of these events does it not make sense to ask for simpler goals? Goals like 485 filing or H4 Eads etc. Sure it makes us look weak in front of the anti-immigrants, but then are we here to solve our problems or to prove the anti-immigrants wrong?
Lastly this was NOT a threat nor was it intended to be a Threat that "take my advice or i will leave". Just a simple suggestion in light of things to come.
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somegchuh
08-01 03:32 PM
I agree that MBa can help your career but I am not sure what kind of return I can get for 3 years and 50 K.
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In my opnion starting your own business is always a good idea, of course with uncertainities with GC process it is another risk added to the enterprise.
In my opinion, doing an MBA from a good school can open up doors to further growth in a comapny. With jsut technical skills it can get stagnated.
Age should not be a restraint, but with age comes other responsibilities of familiy etc, those could be more limiting.
I think doing MBA from a good institute is good idea, India is really humming and has lot of growth opportunities for MBAs.
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In my opnion starting your own business is always a good idea, of course with uncertainities with GC process it is another risk added to the enterprise.
In my opinion, doing an MBA from a good school can open up doors to further growth in a comapny. With jsut technical skills it can get stagnated.
Age should not be a restraint, but with age comes other responsibilities of familiy etc, those could be more limiting.
I think doing MBA from a good institute is good idea, India is really humming and has lot of growth opportunities for MBAs.
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satishku_2000
01-29 05:40 PM
Hopefully this does not get postponed and happens sooner rather than later. This should make the priority dates move faster than now.
swamy
12-12 10:28 PM
Excuse my cynicism, but that hasn't quite worked out with the crowd in question (so far... ). :)
jazz
You are right to be cynical and without the vb helping us in a perverse way maybe the fundraising wouldve been doa. still, it just doesn't feel right - Im too tired to backit up in a convincing way now, maybe tomorrow- but as i said earliuer its just a gut feeling.
jazz
You are right to be cynical and without the vb helping us in a perverse way maybe the fundraising wouldve been doa. still, it just doesn't feel right - Im too tired to backit up in a convincing way now, maybe tomorrow- but as i said earliuer its just a gut feeling.
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chanduv23
07-02 03:06 PM
Sorry for jumping the gun; it sounded like a contradiction. My bad.
If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.
I agree. There haas to be a start. Like how Obama has promised he will make corporate CEOs accountable for the mess they create and move on, we must also jump start the community towards cleansing the system.
The CEO level corruption, if held accountable, we will see less of layoffs etc.. and we can see the good old days permanant jobs that are "really" permanant
If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.
I agree. There haas to be a start. Like how Obama has promised he will make corporate CEOs accountable for the mess they create and move on, we must also jump start the community towards cleansing the system.
The CEO level corruption, if held accountable, we will see less of layoffs etc.. and we can see the good old days permanant jobs that are "really" permanant
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GCard_Dream
01-31 10:40 AM
From what I understand, once the law comes in to affect, labor substitution will no longer be allowed so desi companies can't sell labors anymore. But the 2nd part of the puzzle was that approved labor will only be valid for X number of days (like 45 days as originally proposed) and I am not sure if this impacts the existing labors or not. 45 days expiration may only apply to new labors but no details has emerged yet so we'll have wait and see when the details come out. If it also applies to existing labors then we are home free because after the expiry date, all labors will automatically be canceled. Well, let's wait the for the fine details to come out first.
As for you, it appears that as long as your substitution is approved before the law comes in to effect, there won't be any problem. If not approved by that date then it's kind of fuzzy as to what will happen. If you haven't filed already, just file premium and I am sure you'll have your 140 approved before the law takes effect.
2. If what is stated in immigrationportal about the labor substitution is true, then we don't have any real benefit from the this rule, because all labors certified before the implementation of this rule are not bound by the 45-days time constraint?!? All the so called desi companies may not sell the labors, but would not spend money to cancel it either. So those old labors are going waste as they are still active.
As for you, it appears that as long as your substitution is approved before the law comes in to effect, there won't be any problem. If not approved by that date then it's kind of fuzzy as to what will happen. If you haven't filed already, just file premium and I am sure you'll have your 140 approved before the law takes effect.
2. If what is stated in immigrationportal about the labor substitution is true, then we don't have any real benefit from the this rule, because all labors certified before the implementation of this rule are not bound by the 45-days time constraint?!? All the so called desi companies may not sell the labors, but would not spend money to cancel it either. So those old labors are going waste as they are still active.
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meghanap2000
10-30 05:18 PM
I can unload a whole dictionary of the choicest words on you, however my advice to you is to open another thread where I am sure you will get your question answered.
then in the first ..why did not you put your reply to the question asked. what is the need tofor you to be sarcastic..gootle....
Looks like you dont ahve any business other than commenting others...
then in the first ..why did not you put your reply to the question asked. what is the need tofor you to be sarcastic..gootle....
Looks like you dont ahve any business other than commenting others...
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somegchuh
07-21 12:02 PM
I think canadian IT jobs will accept US IT experience. However, getting a job there is harder because the industry is small but then again you don't have to be in IT. You are free to start a business there. I know ppl who have come from India to canada and have started insurance business etc. Like moving to any other place, its going to be a fresh-start if you choose to go to canada/Aus/India/etc.
One of my friends who is in Canada for a few years now tells me that the Canadian companies do recognize US experience. Another friend recently finished his MBA from the US ( after he went through the whole MS, job at a top company, GC process where labor got rejected after 4 years nonsense). He moved to Canada with a job offer, so it is much easier for him. Just don't go there and think you will find something. Make sure you have a job offer and only then go there.
One of my friends who is in Canada for a few years now tells me that the Canadian companies do recognize US experience. Another friend recently finished his MBA from the US ( after he went through the whole MS, job at a top company, GC process where labor got rejected after 4 years nonsense). He moved to Canada with a job offer, so it is much easier for him. Just don't go there and think you will find something. Make sure you have a job offer and only then go there.
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desi485
11-09 11:25 PM
Thanks for the additional information. In case 1 - can the applicant still retain the priority date if s/he wants to start a new GC process? In other words, does 6 year expiration have any effect on retaining PD?
From what I have gathered so far, it appears that it's a misconception that a lot of people have who feel it's safer to stay on H1. It doesn't sound like EAD is as bad as I had once initially thought..
As far as I know, one retains the PD for life once I-140 is approved; unless CIS revokes I-140 due to fraud or min-interpretation. Otherwise PD is yours forever, across the category (eb-1, 2 or 3).
From what I have gathered so far, it appears that it's a misconception that a lot of people have who feel it's safer to stay on H1. It doesn't sound like EAD is as bad as I had once initially thought..
As far as I know, one retains the PD for life once I-140 is approved; unless CIS revokes I-140 due to fraud or min-interpretation. Otherwise PD is yours forever, across the category (eb-1, 2 or 3).
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chanduv23
01-30 07:08 AM
Those who got labor sub and got their GCs already must reapply within XX days or their GCs will be deemed invalid? How do you think will such a rule be?
If labor substitution, applying 140 in 45 days etc.. are the kind of rules that are being framed, it is mainly because all the companies started exploiting these rules.
It can be hypocratically argued that Desi companies only sell labor and misuse it, but from a larger perspective, any company including those multibillion dollar companies may actually misuse labors ie like HR will use sub labor for friend, lawyer may educate HR about the loophole and they will use it as a card for new hires. If such a thing is stopped there is no room for misuse of any form. We have to thank Desi companies because in someway, by totally exploiting the loophole, they helped this cause.
45 days in filing 140. Believe me, such deadline is definitely achievable. 140 is a simple process and all that is needed is company audit and tax reports. I guess time will be given to those who already have labor certified and not applied for 140 for whatever reason.
Such a rule must come even for filing 485. So that companies don't drag that too.
Like most of the people have told earlier, changes are coming, a lot of changes are coming in the system and people are working in the background to streamline the system.
I am not sure if this is true, but I have heard that IRS is now exposing its database to INS, DOL, SSA, DOS, Consulates and DMVs also can participate in it. Any kind of discrepency in salary or status can be exposed by this.
IV iks definitely making a difference. IV has been extremely neutral in all its demands and causes and has raised excellent awareness, I am sure these sites are regularly monitored, which makes a lot of difference.
If labor substitution, applying 140 in 45 days etc.. are the kind of rules that are being framed, it is mainly because all the companies started exploiting these rules.
It can be hypocratically argued that Desi companies only sell labor and misuse it, but from a larger perspective, any company including those multibillion dollar companies may actually misuse labors ie like HR will use sub labor for friend, lawyer may educate HR about the loophole and they will use it as a card for new hires. If such a thing is stopped there is no room for misuse of any form. We have to thank Desi companies because in someway, by totally exploiting the loophole, they helped this cause.
45 days in filing 140. Believe me, such deadline is definitely achievable. 140 is a simple process and all that is needed is company audit and tax reports. I guess time will be given to those who already have labor certified and not applied for 140 for whatever reason.
Such a rule must come even for filing 485. So that companies don't drag that too.
Like most of the people have told earlier, changes are coming, a lot of changes are coming in the system and people are working in the background to streamline the system.
I am not sure if this is true, but I have heard that IRS is now exposing its database to INS, DOL, SSA, DOS, Consulates and DMVs also can participate in it. Any kind of discrepency in salary or status can be exposed by this.
IV iks definitely making a difference. IV has been extremely neutral in all its demands and causes and has raised excellent awareness, I am sure these sites are regularly monitored, which makes a lot of difference.
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santb1975
12-01 03:32 PM
IV is about you and me and IV will become what we want it to be.
Folks,
I know many of you may have already thought about this at some point. I'll lay out my views on the donations...IV can object/correct.
I'm following the donations thread along with many of you and there is not much to be excited there.2000$ in 2 weeks....for all the Agenda that pappu has posted. I understand that everyone(including me)...will have limited resources at our disposal every month...may it be mortgage/daycare/medical/school or those unexpected repairs...so the bottom line is there is not much room to increase our monthly contributions or...holiday contributions.
I was thinking...we are 25000 'real' people...and there are more than one visit by each person to this site.
1. Can IV use any space to advertise...so that IV can get some AD Money?
2. Is it possible to get some space on popular pro-immigrant or immigrant driven websites...to donate to our cause?
3. Would it be possible to split the donation denominations further down...like 5 dollars..or even low..so that all immigrants...including people who got the GC's/Citizenship can contribute with out looking deeper into their pockets.
4. Optional....ebay/paypal donation to the peoples questions/answers...Mind you it is totally optional...if you want to donate 5/10/20/100...or how important the question is and hw satisfied the person is with the information...etc
5. DOnation boxes at Immigrant owned grocery stores...with out compromising their principles
Folks, I have layed them out with good intentions...and have also given a thought of what I personally can do for each point above...I'm not expecting the vultures to prey...on the post with mundane comments.
Regards.
Folks,
I know many of you may have already thought about this at some point. I'll lay out my views on the donations...IV can object/correct.
I'm following the donations thread along with many of you and there is not much to be excited there.2000$ in 2 weeks....for all the Agenda that pappu has posted. I understand that everyone(including me)...will have limited resources at our disposal every month...may it be mortgage/daycare/medical/school or those unexpected repairs...so the bottom line is there is not much room to increase our monthly contributions or...holiday contributions.
I was thinking...we are 25000 'real' people...and there are more than one visit by each person to this site.
1. Can IV use any space to advertise...so that IV can get some AD Money?
2. Is it possible to get some space on popular pro-immigrant or immigrant driven websites...to donate to our cause?
3. Would it be possible to split the donation denominations further down...like 5 dollars..or even low..so that all immigrants...including people who got the GC's/Citizenship can contribute with out looking deeper into their pockets.
4. Optional....ebay/paypal donation to the peoples questions/answers...Mind you it is totally optional...if you want to donate 5/10/20/100...or how important the question is and hw satisfied the person is with the information...etc
5. DOnation boxes at Immigrant owned grocery stores...with out compromising their principles
Folks, I have layed them out with good intentions...and have also given a thought of what I personally can do for each point above...I'm not expecting the vultures to prey...on the post with mundane comments.
Regards.
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Humhongekamyab
07-02 02:16 PM
Yes it applies for IV too. We have a handful of monthly subscribers because everyone wants the other person to pay for it. If the problem needs to be solved, each victim needs to fight this problem.
Do let us know the outcome of your complaint.
Please also inform others how you went about making this complaint.
Filing the complaint is the easiest thing that I have done in a long time. As I had lots of written evidence so it took me close to 30 minutes to prepare the everything but normally it should take no more than 10 minutes. The DOL, Wage and Hour division, takes care of all the such complaints and the identity of the filer is kept confidential to the fullest extent provided by law.
The Form for instructions for filling the complaint & the form is available at http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm list of H-1B willful violators is available at http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/immigration/H1BWillfulViolator.htm and the list of debarred employer's is http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/immigration/H1BDebarment.htm
When I filed a complaint, I sent the whole package via FedEx. I waited for few weeks to hear from DOL but when nothing happened I went to their office (they are few blocks away from me). I spoke with an investigator (who was very professional and courteous) who told me that even though FedEx shows the package was delivered they cannot locate it. The investigator asked me to resubmit the package which I did the next day. I received a letter from the DOL after 2 weeks saying my complaint has been received; they even assigned me a complaint number which I can use to track the progress of the complaint by calling their office. The DOL combined mine and my coworker's complaint together and assigned both of us the same complaint number; my coworker filed his complaint few days after I had filed mine.
Do let us know the outcome of your complaint.
Please also inform others how you went about making this complaint.
Filing the complaint is the easiest thing that I have done in a long time. As I had lots of written evidence so it took me close to 30 minutes to prepare the everything but normally it should take no more than 10 minutes. The DOL, Wage and Hour division, takes care of all the such complaints and the identity of the filer is kept confidential to the fullest extent provided by law.
The Form for instructions for filling the complaint & the form is available at http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm list of H-1B willful violators is available at http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/immigration/H1BWillfulViolator.htm and the list of debarred employer's is http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/immigration/H1BDebarment.htm
When I filed a complaint, I sent the whole package via FedEx. I waited for few weeks to hear from DOL but when nothing happened I went to their office (they are few blocks away from me). I spoke with an investigator (who was very professional and courteous) who told me that even though FedEx shows the package was delivered they cannot locate it. The investigator asked me to resubmit the package which I did the next day. I received a letter from the DOL after 2 weeks saying my complaint has been received; they even assigned me a complaint number which I can use to track the progress of the complaint by calling their office. The DOL combined mine and my coworker's complaint together and assigned both of us the same complaint number; my coworker filed his complaint few days after I had filed mine.
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ChalapathiChitturi
10-30 03:52 AM
Reverse brain drain will not happen with warning. But it is happening. I know 4 of my friends (Great guys) left US just because of the current immigration issues.
People might not take decission now, but when time comes, that happens all of a sudden, they will not protest or even inform any one, they just catch the plane. No one knows that it has happend.
But can you bring them back if you want. IMPOSSIBLE.
Also Imagin, US is in good situation (not really but OK.), so they are ignoring immigrants, imagin what happens if they want people tomorrow for their survival. With this background, I am sure that they are going to get only JUNK.
People might not take decission now, but when time comes, that happens all of a sudden, they will not protest or even inform any one, they just catch the plane. No one knows that it has happend.
But can you bring them back if you want. IMPOSSIBLE.
Also Imagin, US is in good situation (not really but OK.), so they are ignoring immigrants, imagin what happens if they want people tomorrow for their survival. With this background, I am sure that they are going to get only JUNK.
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wikipedia_fan
06-01 10:21 PM
Congratulations. I wish you never had to go through all these.
I wished the same - but as long as our petitions are sill pendng anything can happen :)
I wished the same - but as long as our petitions are sill pendng anything can happen :)
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amitjoey
11-16 11:25 AM
We all can certainly do one thing, we can write emails, letters to editors and media talking about our personal situations, highlighting EB visa backlog and how that is hurting legal-tax paying aliens like us. We can raise awareness in the media and we can bring new members.
When something is asked of us, we should do that. Pappu asked everyone to write to the editors thanking them for the story about immigrant entreprenuers. Just yesterday, we had some people come forward and write to all these editors.
Myself and some other members even posted names and emails of all the editors that we should thank in the "news article thread". If all of us can go there and write emails and flood them with thank-you notes, we will get noticed. Remember the print media business is based on how many readers they have, we have to make them feel that this issue is very important and is getting them more readers and membership.
When something is asked of us, we should do that. Pappu asked everyone to write to the editors thanking them for the story about immigrant entreprenuers. Just yesterday, we had some people come forward and write to all these editors.
Myself and some other members even posted names and emails of all the editors that we should thank in the "news article thread". If all of us can go there and write emails and flood them with thank-you notes, we will get noticed. Remember the print media business is based on how many readers they have, we have to make them feel that this issue is very important and is getting them more readers and membership.
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Libra
07-18 10:30 AM
I would say, we should take the web fax created by numberUSA and answer each and every point of it in red and bold and then fax to all senetors. Some senetors who are neutral on legal immigration will know exactly whats going on with these anti-immigrants.
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rkm
10-07 07:24 PM
Global economy downfall impact will be there in india also,Indian Stock market is also going down, Due to Inflation, High interest ,Election year (India). It is better to wait till next year.
Even in Mumbai, prices are coming down (~10-20% from last year) however they are so high right now it has to crash more than 50% to come in "NRI" range. I feel sorry for the common middle class of Mumbai... They have no options but to go beyond Borivali and Thane even after crash :( ....
Even in Mumbai, prices are coming down (~10-20% from last year) however they are so high right now it has to crash more than 50% to come in "NRI" range. I feel sorry for the common middle class of Mumbai... They have no options but to go beyond Borivali and Thane even after crash :( ....
kshitijnt
07-17 10:21 PM
Dear Sir:
I have seen Mr Lou Dobbs show a number of times over the years. Never have I seen a single good remark he has made against immigrants. His journalism is highly biased and is misleading american people.
Kshitij Tumbde
I have seen Mr Lou Dobbs show a number of times over the years. Never have I seen a single good remark he has made against immigrants. His journalism is highly biased and is misleading american people.
Kshitij Tumbde
gc_lover
04-19 08:02 AM
logiclife, ragz4u,
All things considered, do you think it will be a good idea to call up the members to remind them that IV needs contribution?
If you think so, then we can form a group of, say, 10 people and each of them would call 200 members nudging them about contribution.
I will volunteer to be on the group.
You mean members who have not contributed anything so far, right?
All things considered, do you think it will be a good idea to call up the members to remind them that IV needs contribution?
If you think so, then we can form a group of, say, 10 people and each of them would call 200 members nudging them about contribution.
I will volunteer to be on the group.
You mean members who have not contributed anything so far, right?
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