ns33
07-10 01:31 PM
yep..very few care about EB, its all EB2 these days, one of the reasons i am very close to giving up, difficult to convince people these days. I am guessing that most EB3 I's have simply given up or have been bulldozed aside. We know for a fact that there are thousands in a similar situation, but they don't seem/want or care to voice their opinions.
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
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hopefulgc
09-11 04:58 PM
count me in guys...lets get the ball rolling... its go time.
Few big question we need answer tow
1) Why is there no forward movement of dates if there is visa was available from this year/quarter's quota... what is up with retrogression?
2) If visas were unavailable, why was the fucking date advanced to Sept 2006?
4) Why was FIFO not followed during adjudication?
3) How the Fuck long do they need to determine the backlog ..? we need USCIS to publish the backlog stats. Without that visa bulletins are pointless?
Enough bullshit.. as some user suggested here .. we should just raise stink and ask for their resignation
All the 485 cases filed are i their system, it s simple fucking sql query .. or a join at the best ... a blind monkey with hair on its breast could find an aswer to that question in a few mins.
looks like it is me and you only sweet_jungle. I will still go for it. I think people have either gotten their gc and the left out ones have lost hope.
Few big question we need answer tow
1) Why is there no forward movement of dates if there is visa was available from this year/quarter's quota... what is up with retrogression?
2) If visas were unavailable, why was the fucking date advanced to Sept 2006?
4) Why was FIFO not followed during adjudication?
3) How the Fuck long do they need to determine the backlog ..? we need USCIS to publish the backlog stats. Without that visa bulletins are pointless?
Enough bullshit.. as some user suggested here .. we should just raise stink and ask for their resignation
All the 485 cases filed are i their system, it s simple fucking sql query .. or a join at the best ... a blind monkey with hair on its breast could find an aswer to that question in a few mins.
looks like it is me and you only sweet_jungle. I will still go for it. I think people have either gotten their gc and the left out ones have lost hope.
GCStatus
09-18 12:14 AM
GCstatus,
You joined just one month ago and started accusing IV because they did not reply to your PM. We get several PMs, emails, phone calls everyday. We try to attend as many as possible. However we also have our jobs and life. Not every IV core member comes to the forum to post messages. There are several things we do for this cause that is not forum management work.
If we had an office with a customer service department, we could answer everyone. If people want good customer service from IV, are they willing to provide help through their spouse who does not work and stay at home? In the last 2.5 we have posted several times, but only a handful of members offered help through their spouses to volunteer for IV. After initial start, almost all disappeared within 15 days because there was no money and appreciation by members in this volunteer effort. They preferred to find own jobs and make money. So tell me if you are willing to help out in managing our customer service 24/7?
This is for everyone:
Stop accusing IV if your greencard is not coming soon enough. As Admin2 said, we try to reply to people and help them. However in the last 2.5 years, we never had a single IV member calling us to thank us for helping them. This year everyone is able to file for a 2 year EAD. It was possible because of our effort during the admin fix campaign early this year. So many members are today enjoying the 2 year EAD and do not have to worry about renewing it every year. We have not heard a single member thanking us for it. While we are not here to ask for thank you notes, it is discouraging to hear members coming every week and opening threads accusing IV leadership just because visa bulletin was not in their favor. 2 months ago, these members were ignoring IV action item requests and only thinking about own cases and criticizing EB3s on the threads. Put yourself in our shoes and try to do what we are trying to do. Take out that many number of hours everyday for IV as we do. Go on your own expense to DC and meet lawmakers. Get threats from anti-immigrants and still continue to work on this effort without fear.
There is a thread for high five campaign. How many of us have really contributed a mere 5 dollar for it? The community of more than 30 thousand has failed to raise even 5K in more than 2 months and yet we want to see results. 5K is not even enough to file your own greencard case and you want to lobby with it and fight with anti-immigrants who spend millions opposing us? Where is IV membership now when we need them? Is the IV membership ready to take the blame for its failure?
Today everyone is talking about sending clocks, letters or even has the courage to send emails to USCIS. 2.5 years ago people were scared to do any of this. Nobody was talking about employer problems or lawyer problems. There was no action item. There was no awareness. But today we have changed all that. This is IV's biggest achievement.
So before you start pointing fingers at IV, pose a question to yourself. Have you done enough for this cause? We need threads to translate into action and results. Your contribution for IV should not be how many threads and posts you have created but what you have done for the community.
As we have always said, join your state chapters and if your chapter is not active, make it active. Be a leader. Use your energy to lead the effort and travel to DC and meet lawmaker offices. Meet lawmakers in your area. Make phone calls, write letters. But don't just create threads with ideas. We need people to work on those ideas.
Remember each one of us is responsible for IV's success and failure and IV is everyone.
Pappu, you make more sense. Let me know how i can help you. ( no accusing bud ). Its your fellow admin who is turning into a comedian.
You joined just one month ago and started accusing IV because they did not reply to your PM. We get several PMs, emails, phone calls everyday. We try to attend as many as possible. However we also have our jobs and life. Not every IV core member comes to the forum to post messages. There are several things we do for this cause that is not forum management work.
If we had an office with a customer service department, we could answer everyone. If people want good customer service from IV, are they willing to provide help through their spouse who does not work and stay at home? In the last 2.5 we have posted several times, but only a handful of members offered help through their spouses to volunteer for IV. After initial start, almost all disappeared within 15 days because there was no money and appreciation by members in this volunteer effort. They preferred to find own jobs and make money. So tell me if you are willing to help out in managing our customer service 24/7?
This is for everyone:
Stop accusing IV if your greencard is not coming soon enough. As Admin2 said, we try to reply to people and help them. However in the last 2.5 years, we never had a single IV member calling us to thank us for helping them. This year everyone is able to file for a 2 year EAD. It was possible because of our effort during the admin fix campaign early this year. So many members are today enjoying the 2 year EAD and do not have to worry about renewing it every year. We have not heard a single member thanking us for it. While we are not here to ask for thank you notes, it is discouraging to hear members coming every week and opening threads accusing IV leadership just because visa bulletin was not in their favor. 2 months ago, these members were ignoring IV action item requests and only thinking about own cases and criticizing EB3s on the threads. Put yourself in our shoes and try to do what we are trying to do. Take out that many number of hours everyday for IV as we do. Go on your own expense to DC and meet lawmakers. Get threats from anti-immigrants and still continue to work on this effort without fear.
There is a thread for high five campaign. How many of us have really contributed a mere 5 dollar for it? The community of more than 30 thousand has failed to raise even 5K in more than 2 months and yet we want to see results. 5K is not even enough to file your own greencard case and you want to lobby with it and fight with anti-immigrants who spend millions opposing us? Where is IV membership now when we need them? Is the IV membership ready to take the blame for its failure?
Today everyone is talking about sending clocks, letters or even has the courage to send emails to USCIS. 2.5 years ago people were scared to do any of this. Nobody was talking about employer problems or lawyer problems. There was no action item. There was no awareness. But today we have changed all that. This is IV's biggest achievement.
So before you start pointing fingers at IV, pose a question to yourself. Have you done enough for this cause? We need threads to translate into action and results. Your contribution for IV should not be how many threads and posts you have created but what you have done for the community.
As we have always said, join your state chapters and if your chapter is not active, make it active. Be a leader. Use your energy to lead the effort and travel to DC and meet lawmaker offices. Meet lawmakers in your area. Make phone calls, write letters. But don't just create threads with ideas. We need people to work on those ideas.
Remember each one of us is responsible for IV's success and failure and IV is everyone.
Pappu, you make more sense. Let me know how i can help you. ( no accusing bud ). Its your fellow admin who is turning into a comedian.
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dummgelauft
12-08 05:05 PM
its unbelievable what attitude some have on here...many on here are anti-illegal immigration which is understandable...but how can you condone such inhumane treatment...we are not animals...illegals are economic refugees in a way
just cause most of us on here were blessed to come up in decent families who afforded our education...it doesnt give us a right to treat the less fortunate with no dignity...what a shame
always "treat others the way you want to be treated"`
..else, don't say what you don't do.
Hey, lets do this. Let's get a couple of homeless bums to just move into your house, while you are not there and then have them DEMAND repsect, humanity, food, medical care, clothing and shelter from YOU. ALL in the name of humanity.
Then let us see what your reaction is.......a homeless US citizen is in no way inferior to you so called "economic refugee".
Countries have borders and laws for a reason, and each country has the right to protect its borders and uphold the laws. Most of us being of Indian descent, should look into our own house. What is happening to Biharis in Maharashtra...are Biharis not Citizens of India.....we don;t even tolerate people of other states, coming to our state!! and expect US to just keep letting trespassers in?
The name of this Country is "UNITED STATES of AMERICA"...NOT "FREE_FOR_ALL REFUGEE CAMP"..
just cause most of us on here were blessed to come up in decent families who afforded our education...it doesnt give us a right to treat the less fortunate with no dignity...what a shame
always "treat others the way you want to be treated"`
..else, don't say what you don't do.
Hey, lets do this. Let's get a couple of homeless bums to just move into your house, while you are not there and then have them DEMAND repsect, humanity, food, medical care, clothing and shelter from YOU. ALL in the name of humanity.
Then let us see what your reaction is.......a homeless US citizen is in no way inferior to you so called "economic refugee".
Countries have borders and laws for a reason, and each country has the right to protect its borders and uphold the laws. Most of us being of Indian descent, should look into our own house. What is happening to Biharis in Maharashtra...are Biharis not Citizens of India.....we don;t even tolerate people of other states, coming to our state!! and expect US to just keep letting trespassers in?
The name of this Country is "UNITED STATES of AMERICA"...NOT "FREE_FOR_ALL REFUGEE CAMP"..
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dixie
12-18 07:50 PM
sent mine.
boreal
07-09 08:47 PM
According to DHS statistics there are around 50,000 EB2 lndia Labors in 2004 and 2005 each. So ppl with 2005, 2006 priority dates you can wait around 6-7 years for ur priority dates to be current with annual limit of around 5000 for EB2 India.
The lawsuit can be filed by your American Civil Liberties Union Member or ur aunt or uncle or mistress who is a US citizen. U guys and gals with 485's will not be there in the lawsuit but will benefit if the lawsuit wins.
Doesnt sound correct. Perm started March 2005 and for the entire 2005 year, i saw somewhere that the total number of LCs filed were close to 10-15K, for all countries...so i dont know how you arrived at this 50K number, only for EB2-India...
The lawsuit can be filed by your American Civil Liberties Union Member or ur aunt or uncle or mistress who is a US citizen. U guys and gals with 485's will not be there in the lawsuit but will benefit if the lawsuit wins.
Doesnt sound correct. Perm started March 2005 and for the entire 2005 year, i saw somewhere that the total number of LCs filed were close to 10-15K, for all countries...so i dont know how you arrived at this 50K number, only for EB2-India...
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03-09 05:31 PM
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aeroterp
05-04 01:10 PM
Master's cap reached on 4/30. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=138b6138f898d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=91919c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
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dallasdude
04-13 06:14 PM
This ain't nothing. Wait until the second wave of labor substituted EB3 applicants port their case from EB3 to EB2 or EB1 .Talk about a double whammy. Except a bigger hit in the next year or two when most of the porting succeeds.
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royus77
07-17 07:51 PM
Congrats IV team... you've proved yourself today.
:) :)
However this is only the start... we have a lot of things to accomplish once we return from the celebrations :
- recapture 200K+ unused EB visas
- abolish per country limits on EB visas
- Increase EB visa share by 50K (now that DV is gone)
- 3 yr EADs and APs
.... Any other bright ideas invited...
abolish per country limits on EB visas will back fire us because of diversity issue. We should propose some thing where there is no controversy to reject and that's is recapture 200K visas and EAD/APO for 3 years
:) :)
However this is only the start... we have a lot of things to accomplish once we return from the celebrations :
- recapture 200K+ unused EB visas
- abolish per country limits on EB visas
- Increase EB visa share by 50K (now that DV is gone)
- 3 yr EADs and APs
.... Any other bright ideas invited...
abolish per country limits on EB visas will back fire us because of diversity issue. We should propose some thing where there is no controversy to reject and that's is recapture 200K visas and EAD/APO for 3 years
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YesGC_NoGC
03-09 10:55 AM
I pledge $50 for this effort.
Shoudl I send money on the regular IV account through Paypal?
Shoudl I send money on the regular IV account through Paypal?
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jayram123
09-07 09:48 PM
Isn�t it odd that the timing of your rally coincides with the introduction of the Strive act?
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do� One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Man! Who r u? Wat is ur interest in joining this forum? Nobody is asking what u think. You don't belong here.
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do� One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Man! Who r u? Wat is ur interest in joining this forum? Nobody is asking what u think. You don't belong here.
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chanduv23
02-05 10:58 AM
I have nothing against the staffing agencies whatsoever. I actually like the business model. The laws are generally being followed. There is nothing wrong with it. However, I do ask many of the companies why they only have indian or south asians. Especially if they have indians coming from Germany or Singapore, etc. Common answer I get is that other people have too much restriction. Expectation would be they would have their own corporate apartment, no bench time; selection of projects and no travel. As you know this is a little difficult to accomodate for these companies.
It generally is being clogged because it is getting around family base immigration. Although there is nothing wrong with that legally; it does hurt the people who cannot have the same accomodation. I know many, many people who have u.s. citizen brother; sponsors parents for greencards, rest of siblings come through staffing agency and then cousins get invited through h-1b and then spouse want to work and then another h-1b gets used. Eventully whole extended family base is here going through employment base when perhaps they should be going through family base. Other country people do not have such luxuries or companies looking to sponsor them specifically. Other country people generally went to school here and then went to h-1b and even then they have a difficult time getting it because they don't have the connection.
Because of all these workarounds; it is going to cause a lot of people to be here from just certain countries. I firmly believe that lawmakers, uscis know this pretty well (i've actually seen it in an i-140 denial where brother was ceo and sponsoring his brother for greencard) and this is why they don't want to lift country caps. They understand why the visas are being dominated. Pretty tough to get them to change this, if this is the way they feel.
Yes, I have heard of people using H1b visas to bring relatives etc.... which is not good, but a good system in place and strict enforcements will make sure someone is not misusing h1b visa. ie as long as employee is highly productive and gets good salary, it is fine, but if visa is beng used just as travel document, then it is an issue.
It generally is being clogged because it is getting around family base immigration. Although there is nothing wrong with that legally; it does hurt the people who cannot have the same accomodation. I know many, many people who have u.s. citizen brother; sponsors parents for greencards, rest of siblings come through staffing agency and then cousins get invited through h-1b and then spouse want to work and then another h-1b gets used. Eventully whole extended family base is here going through employment base when perhaps they should be going through family base. Other country people do not have such luxuries or companies looking to sponsor them specifically. Other country people generally went to school here and then went to h-1b and even then they have a difficult time getting it because they don't have the connection.
Because of all these workarounds; it is going to cause a lot of people to be here from just certain countries. I firmly believe that lawmakers, uscis know this pretty well (i've actually seen it in an i-140 denial where brother was ceo and sponsoring his brother for greencard) and this is why they don't want to lift country caps. They understand why the visas are being dominated. Pretty tough to get them to change this, if this is the way they feel.
Yes, I have heard of people using H1b visas to bring relatives etc.... which is not good, but a good system in place and strict enforcements will make sure someone is not misusing h1b visa. ie as long as employee is highly productive and gets good salary, it is fine, but if visa is beng used just as travel document, then it is an issue.
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jonty_11
07-05 04:22 PM
See page 2; Pappus comment on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2
It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2
It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.
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rockstart
08-12 08:36 AM
I agree its tactic to scare people and attract attention. I think USCIS is far better placed today in 2009 compared to what it was in 2007. If that was not the case they would have just moved the Priority dates to Mid 2006 like they did last year. But this year they are much better prepared in their estimates. In Oct the dates might go back but it will definately not go back to Jan 2000 or U. They might take them back to mid 2004 and start slow advance from there. Next year Sep 10 bulletion hopefully they can take them to early. I am sure in Oct EB3 I will also come out of U and will be some where in early 2002 status at begining and will advance from there on.
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ragz4u
04-24 10:50 PM
You represent a very important category of people who are planning to not go through this ordeal having observed others before you. You are exactly the kind of people US cannot afford to lose!
Your story can also help us immensely. We would appreciate it if you could please send me an email using the first post as a template
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Shrey
Your story can also help us immensely. We would appreciate it if you could please send me an email using the first post as a template
Thanks
Shrey
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paskal
12-19 10:46 PM
and you Iccleared!
Thanks much for standing up here with all of us.
I'm especially gratified to see members with 5 or less posts, even the FIRST post..adding their might to iv through this campaign.
You all rock! let's keep going and make ourselves proud,
(not to mention permanent residents :p )
Thanks much for standing up here with all of us.
I'm especially gratified to see members with 5 or less posts, even the FIRST post..adding their might to iv through this campaign.
You all rock! let's keep going and make ourselves proud,
(not to mention permanent residents :p )
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Administrator2
09-18 01:02 AM
Dude, what do you want to bet if we are not the same?. STOP accusing with out any proof. This is the last time i am saying this.
GCStatus,
Kindly send us your phone number. If you don't mind, we would like to have an opportunity to speak with you.
GCStatus,
Kindly send us your phone number. If you don't mind, we would like to have an opportunity to speak with you.
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murali77
07-17 08:08 PM
My heartiest congratulations to IV and Core. Over the last 2 weeks I found that IV was the most reliable and quickest in giving us information.
I have a question for IV , is there a possibility of increasing annual GC quota or atleast reusing unused Visas from previous years.
Thanks and thanks again for all your work.
Murali
I have a question for IV , is there a possibility of increasing annual GC quota or atleast reusing unused Visas from previous years.
Thanks and thanks again for all your work.
Murali
nogc_noproblem
07-11 01:50 AM
Could not able to understand from where this EB2 Vs EB3 scenario came up, silly.
If somebody says EB3 filer is inferior to EB2 (in a way), then it is ridicules. Being said that, nobody has asked to them to opt for EB3, it was just the situation they were in when they started their GC journey. Let it be their educational qualification, experience or job requirement, they opted to go with EB3 with full consciousness and also due to some compelling reasons. If EB2 dates are moving forward why EB2 filers needs to be blamed / targeted for that? This doesn’t make any sense either.
Also, now nobody is stopping them to convert from EB3 to EB2.
Let us just stop this EB2 Vs EB3 crap and do something constructive. These kinds of fights will not take us anywhere.
Coming back to the topic of this thread, WHY WE ARE HESITATING TO FILE A LAW SUIT? Any answers?????
If somebody says EB3 filer is inferior to EB2 (in a way), then it is ridicules. Being said that, nobody has asked to them to opt for EB3, it was just the situation they were in when they started their GC journey. Let it be their educational qualification, experience or job requirement, they opted to go with EB3 with full consciousness and also due to some compelling reasons. If EB2 dates are moving forward why EB2 filers needs to be blamed / targeted for that? This doesn’t make any sense either.
Also, now nobody is stopping them to convert from EB3 to EB2.
Let us just stop this EB2 Vs EB3 crap and do something constructive. These kinds of fights will not take us anywhere.
Coming back to the topic of this thread, WHY WE ARE HESITATING TO FILE A LAW SUIT? Any answers?????
bsbawa10
09-12 03:08 AM
Bwbawa,
Hats off for your efforts! I was about to suggest adding "We want accountability" to the posters when I saw it in the last one .. maybe these words should be in CAPS, "JUSTICE" "ACCOUNTABILITY" etc.. ?
Good job!
Lets now draw up a list of persons/media outlets/organizations to send them to.
Just created one more poster.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_132g6jcsffz&invite=hczhh8x
One of the persons should be Director USCIS.
One letter/poster to each service center.
One I think should be President of US.
Another place could be CNN, FOX news etc.
Another one could be Congressmen
If we have our blogs , we can post them there also.
Hats off for your efforts! I was about to suggest adding "We want accountability" to the posters when I saw it in the last one .. maybe these words should be in CAPS, "JUSTICE" "ACCOUNTABILITY" etc.. ?
Good job!
Lets now draw up a list of persons/media outlets/organizations to send them to.
Just created one more poster.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_132g6jcsffz&invite=hczhh8x
One of the persons should be Director USCIS.
One letter/poster to each service center.
One I think should be President of US.
Another place could be CNN, FOX news etc.
Another one could be Congressmen
If we have our blogs , we can post them there also.
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